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		<title>More Apple 1 Fonts</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 00:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a previous post, I talked about how the lettering on the Apple 1 was probably done with a K&#038;E Leroy system. However, I forgot to mention that the larger letters were not done with Leroy. Those letters were probably done with a Letraset or similar rub on transfer system. Take a close look at [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a <a href="http://www.willegal.net/blog/?p=4678" title="http://www.willegal.net/blog/?p=4678">previous post</a>, I talked about how the lettering on the Apple 1 was probably done with a K&#038;E Leroy system.  However, I forgot to mention that the larger letters were not done with Leroy.  Those letters were probably done with a Letraset or similar rub on transfer system.  Take a close look at the Apple Computer 1 lettering, which is representative of the larger lettering seen throughout the board.</p>
<div id="attachment_4720" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Apple1logo.png"><img src="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Apple1logo-300x54.png" alt="Apple1logo" width="300" height="54" class="size-medium wp-image-4720" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Apple1logo</p></div>
<p>This lettering is in the general form of Helvetica, with subtle differences from most variations of Helvetica that you see today.  Through extensive searching I found a very close match with Neue Haas Grotest Std Text 65 Medium.  This is a recreated version of the predecessor to Helvetica.  Check out <a href="http://www.linotype.com/6598/neuehaasgrotesk.html" title="http://www.linotype.com/6598/neuehaasgrotesk.html">this page</a> with more information about this font.  </p>
<p>Here is a recreation of the Apple Computer 1 lettering using this font.  I think it would be hard to beat this match.</p>
<p><div id="attachment_4722" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/NeueHassGrotesk.png"><img src="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/NeueHassGrotesk-300x46.png" alt="Replicated Apple Computer 1 logo" width="300" height="46" class="size-medium wp-image-4722" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Replicated Apple Computer 1 logo</p></div><br />
<div id="attachment_4721" style="width: 290px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/NeueHaasGrotesk2.png"><img src="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/NeueHaasGrotesk2.png" alt="replicated Apple 1 copyright notice" width="280" height="52" class="size-full wp-image-4721" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">replicated Apple 1 copyright notice</p></div></p>
<p>If someone has a Letraset catalog from the 70&#8217;s, it would be interesting to see if they can find a good match in one of those catalogs.</p>
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		<title>How are the Apple 1 and Wonder Woman Comics alike</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 02:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently received an email that indicated that the Apple 1 was most likely lettered with the Leroy lettering. That email has resulted in a lot of research and exploration of exactly what is Leroy lettering and was it really used for lettering the Apple 1 PCB. First thing to figure out is what is [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently received an email that indicated that the Apple 1 was most likely lettered with  the Leroy lettering.   That email has resulted in a lot of research and exploration of exactly what is Leroy lettering and was it really used for lettering the Apple 1 PCB.</p>
<p>First thing to figure out is what is the Leroy lettering system?  It is a system to mechanically create lettering that was intended to generate legible lettering on a drafting table.  Engineering documents, maps, architectural drawings and the like were the primary applications.</p>
<p>Here is an image of a K&#038;E Leroy lettering set.</p>
<div id="attachment_4674" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/leroyset.jpg"><img src="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/leroyset-300x156.jpg" alt="K&amp;E Leroy Lettering Set" width="300" height="156" class="size-medium wp-image-4674" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">K&#038;E Leroy Lettering Set</p></div>
<p>It&#8217;s easier to show how it works, than describe it.  Here is an image of one set up to make a capital M.  The scribe follows the letting in the ruler like jig and ink in the &#8220;pen&#8221; writes a pretty exact copy of that letter.  There are a series of jigs for different sized letters.  The scribe tool can be adjust to make the letters slanted in an italic type fashion.</p>
<div id="attachment_4676" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/leroyletteringjpg.jpg"><img src="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/leroyletteringjpg-300x203.jpg" alt="Leroy Letterng Sytems Set Up" width="300" height="203" class="size-medium wp-image-4676" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Leroy Letterng Sytems Set Up</p></div>
<p>So how do we determine whether this system was used to make the lettering for the Apple 1.   The easiest way is to compare the lettering on an actual Apple 1 with an example we know was made with Leroy lettering System.</p>
<div id="attachment_4675" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/apple1-leroy.jpg"><img src="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/apple1-leroy-300x226.jpg" alt="Apple1 Leroy Lettering " width="300" height="226" class="size-medium wp-image-4675" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Apple1 Leroy Lettering compared to Apple 1</p></div>
<p>You can see that the newly created Leroy lettering (bottom) is nearly a perfect match to the Apple 1 (top), so I think that we can be pretty confident that the Apple 1 lettering was made with the Leroy or very similar lettering system.</p>
<p>My next question is whether the SCELBI front bezel was also lettered with the Leroy system.  </p>
<div id="attachment_4677" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/leroy-memoryaddress.jpg"><img src="http://www.willegal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/leroy-memoryaddress-300x297.jpg" alt="Leroy and SCELBI Front Panel" width="300" height="297" class="size-medium wp-image-4677" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Leroy and SCELBI Front Panel</p></div>
<p>Though the lettering is very close, there are some differences in the leg on the &#8220;R&#8221; and the &#8220;A&#8221; looks a little different.  Also the ends of the strokes on the letters have nice square edges, which would not occur in a Leroy lettered system.</p>
<p>Finally, follow this <a href="http://southeasternarchitecture.blogspot.com/2008/10/architectural-lettering-pop-culture.html" title="http://southeasternarchitecture.blogspot.com/2008/10/architectural-lettering-pop-culture.html">link</a> to see what Wonder Woman comic books have in common with the Apple 1.</p>
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