Archive for the ‘Vintage Computing’ Category

Complete Information on MM5740 Keyboard Decoder Found!

Tuesday, February 14th, 2012

I’ve done several online searches for a complete MM5740 data sheet over the last several years. There is a version that can be found on many of the data sheet archive search engines, but it is missing at least one page, containing crucial information. I knew it was part of National’s MOS/LSI data book from the mid ’70s, but I couldn’t locate an online version of that book, and I really didn’t want to buy a physical copy. One of the key questions that couldn’t be answered with the existing online data sheet, is what exactly is the difference between the AAC/AAD/AAE/AAF versions.

Finally while exploring the possibility of using an AVR as a replacement decoder for the MM5740, I did another search and the data book turned up as a PDF at bitsavers.org. The last page of the data sheet show that the AAE version has N-key rollover and the AAF version has 2-key rollover. Otherwise they are the same. This means that the AAF version should be usable in the Apple/Datanetics keyboards, only with the loss of the n-key rollover feature. Also, in this data book are some app notes, that provide information on the AAC and AAD versions. Those versions decode the matrix differently, in order to make using an external PROM decoder simpler. They will not be compatible with Apple/Datanetics keyboards.

Once I figure out the best way to cut it out of the complete data book, I’ll put a copy of the complete MM5740 data sheet and associated app notes up on one of my web pages. For now, you can try to download the complete National MOS/LSI data book from bitsavers.org. Recently, I’ve have trouble accessing that site, but if you are persistant, you should be able to get through.

Apple II ebay starting auction price 4,995

Tuesday, February 14th, 2012

This is NOT a rev 0 system. Is there really a chance Dan could sell this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1978-Apple-II-Computer-Integer-BASIC-Steve-Jobs-and-Wozniak-Collector-Quality/120860101174?ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1&ih=002&category=80075&cmd=ViewItem#ht_31541wt_1047

first pass SCELBI CPU board alignment started

Saturday, February 11th, 2012
Scelbi layout

Scelbi layout

This small section looks half-decent after the first pass, but there is a lot of tedious tweaking to follow. The rest of the board, isn’t even close to this standard.

The CPU board has been a lot of work. The next SCELBI board I’m going to layout will probably be one of the easiest, which is the front panel board.

Scelbi front panel board

Scelbi front panel board

SCELBI CPU Traces Connected

Sunday, February 5th, 2012

If anyone ever said that these early micros were simple, they were wrong.

This board, alone, has 27 ICs, compared to the Apple 1’s 57 (including 16 DRAM chips on the Apple). However the complexity is really revealed by the number of vias. The SCELBI CPU board has about 240 versus the Apple 1’s 296.

SCELBI CPU Board

For each replica PCB board layout, I go through 4 main phases. Placing the major components is phase 1. Connecting the traces is phase 2. Next phase of this board will be aligning traces with an image of an original board. The last phase is an exhaustive checking phase. This is only the first of at least five boards I need to layout before I can power up a replica SCELBI.

Banner day for my retro-computing hobby – historic images added to website

Friday, February 3rd, 2012

An image of an original SCELBI stock certificate was sent to me about a week ago, by early SCELBI employee, Frank Zawacki. More about Frank and the image can be found on my SCELBI page.

http://www.willegal.net/scelbi/the8008andScelbi.html

Wendell Sander sent me an incredible scan of an original photo used in an early Apple 1 ad. A lower res image of this scan has been added to my registry page.

http://www.willegal.net/appleii/apple1-originals.htm

Also, earlier today, I was lucky enough to have a brief chat with Jon Titus of Mark-8 fame about an Apple ][ project I have had in the works for a while. Jon seems like a great guy and was very accommodating. Hopefully I’ll have time to make more headway on this Apple ][ project, so I can share the details with readers.

Apple 1 Cassette Interface Update

Monday, January 30th, 2012

I have come to the conclusion that 74LS74 performs slightly better than the 7474 in the ACI output flip flop application. This is because of a slightly higher output voltage level in the LS series part. As noted in the past, the 7474 is slightly less subject to the potential floating input problem than the 74LS74. However, I have been exclusively using a 74LS74 on my own ACI without difficulty for a long time, so I think the floating input issue is more of a theoretical issue than an actual problem. However, I would verify any tapes you make before declaring your program or data is backed up.

Because of this change in thinking, I will no longer be providing the alternate 7474 ICs with my ACI kits.

Scopewriter Fail – reason

Saturday, January 28th, 2012

First of all – what is a Scopewriter? It was a circuit intended to make use of an oscilloscope for a single line terminal display. It can take 6 bit ASCII character input and display up to 32 characters on an Oscilloscope. The complete design, with PCB layout, was published in Popular Electronics in 1974.

Radio Electronics cover

Radio Electronics cover

I got interested in building one, thinking it would make a nice accessory for the Scelbi Mini-computer replica that I am planning on building. It is supposed to support a single line/32 character display. There is some documentation available, showing how to interface a Scelbi to a Scopewriter. I thought it also might make a nice display at VCF east.

So, using the PCB layout in the magazine I etched a PCB and acquired parts. Most parts were easily obtainable. However, the TMS2501, TMS3112 and the 1N750A zener diodes were hard to find. Eventually I found a TMS3112 in the UK. I tried buying a TMS2501 on ebay, but it turned out to be out of stock. Finally, I figured out that I could substitue a GI 2513 for the TMS2501 with some rewiring. I did a cross reference of the 1N750A zener diode and decided that a 1N5230 should work in place of it.

Next, I built it up and connected a PS/2 keyboard. So far, so good.

Scopewriter PCB

Scopewriter PCB

The problems started with the first debug session. I powered it up and connected the scope, hoping I would get lucky and get to see a line of characters, but nothing intelligible could be deciphered. After mucking around for a few hours, I found some mistakes in the 2513 wiring that I had hacked together to make the GI part work in this circuit. I fixed that and when the display didn’t improve and I called it a night.

Next debug session, I found that the 3 bit counter selecting the row on the 2513 didn’t look right, but couldn’t figure out the reason. I also noticed that the power supply design, wasn’t the best in the world, with a .5 volt 60 HZ wave showing on the +5 volt line. I did figure out that I had my keyboard adapter wired wrong and fixed that. At this point I could see that characters were being entered into the shift register correctly, but I still didn’t see a good display. After some hours of probing with an oscilloscope, I figured out that the GI 2513 character ROM addressing was different from the TMS2513 and that the bottom line of each character would be truncated when using the GI part. I decided that I could live with that for now. At this point, I was pretty frustrated, by continual problems, on what I originally thought, would be a simple project. I put the Scopewriter aside for a couple of months.

Scopewriter setup

Scopewriter setup

Last night I took it out again and figured out that the counter feeding row select to the 2513, worked better, if I changed a resistor in the the source clock generation circuit. Finally, if I put the same character in every position in the shift register, I could see the display of something approximating characters. Certain characters like “F” were easier to identify than others. However the display was only about 18 characters wide, unless I slowed down the scope to the point where the phosper wouldn’t persist for an entire sweep. Unfortunately, at that slow sweep speed, the display becomes unreadable.. Also the output was not stable, which I attributed to the unstable +5 volt supply.

Scopewriter Display

Scopewriter Display

The display of “F”s in this image actually looks a little worse than the actual display because the camera caught several scans in this single image.

Anyway, when I about wrapped things up last night, something broke in the power suppy, which is the point at which I stopped and sent my last nights blog entry and decided that this project would require several mods in order to work well.

  • base clock speed would have to be increased
  • the clock timing circuit resistor change needed reviewing
  • power supply would have to be improved
  • the 2513 addressing would have to changed make the bottom line visable
  • whatever broke, would have to be repaired
  • This morning, in order to take the pictures for the blog, I found the problem with the power supply. It turned out to be the 1N5230 zerner that had failed. I have a nagging fear that this substitute zerner is the root of many of my problems, so I’ll review specs again. I replaced the zener and took the pictures of the display for this blog entry.

    This has been one of the most stubborn, problem filled retro projects that I have ever worked on – hence the FAIL message. I’m going to put this project away again – maybe I’ll pick it up again some day.

    Scopewriter Fail :-(

    Friday, January 27th, 2012

    details later

    The Ultimate Replica 1?

    Friday, January 27th, 2012

    See what can be done with Vince Briel’s replica 1 and one of my Apple Cassette Interface cards. Check out this entry on Vince’s forum.

    http://www.brielcomputers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=933

    “Retro 1″ Systems

    Friday, January 27th, 2012

    Marty Ewer is now selling “Retro 1″ systems on ebay for $249. They are fully tested Apple IIe computers equiped with my Brain Board. If you are looking for the easiest, least expensive way to an authentic Apple 1 experience, this may be it. In addition, you get a working Apple IIe in the bargain. Search for “Retro 1″ under user “shockwavetechnologies” on ebay.

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/shockwavetechnologies/m.html?_nkw=%22Retro+1%22&_sacat=0&_odkw=retro+1&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1313