Reproduction Apple II rev 0 update

January 17th, 2014

Here is an image of my completed prototype.

2014 edition A2 rev 0

2014 edition A2 rev 0

The image can also be found on my website.
http://www.willegal.net/appleii/images/2014rev0.jpg

This has taken much longer than expected, but I’ve got a few good decal sets ready and will start taking money, with shipments beginning no later than 1/27, with the first units likely to ship on 1/20.

The build manual can be found here.

Parts list can be found here.

Cost of bare PCB is $150 plus $20 shipping. In order to make a functional board, you will need to provide components, keyboard (my PS/2 keyboard adapter works with Apple IIs), power supply (from Apple II plus), and ROMS (see my ROM page). I’ve heard from Rob at Unicorn and he might be putting together component kits (no ROMs).

If you are not into building kits, but you are a Apple II fan, keep in mind that a framed bare PCB would look great in your den.

Send an email to:mike@willegal.net if you need more details about ordering.

Interesting Apple Design Video on utube and Macintosh 30th aniversary event

January 16th, 2014

One of the mailing lists that I am on, had a thread that included a link to this old video featuring talks by key members of the Apple Industrial Design team

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–7Br07QKMk

Something caught my ear while listening to the talk. It was Jerry Manocks view of how an early design decision indirectly caused the well known reliability issues with the Apple III. This is toward the end of Jerry’s talk – about 30 minutes into the session.

Daniel Kottke has a very interesting talk about the early days of Apple, including a detailed discussion of the reliability problem with the Apple III. I sent Daniel a link to this video, because Jerry’s view provides a cause and effect scenario that isn’t part of Daniel’s talk.

In return, Daniel mentioned that he was busy preparing for a Macintosh 30th aniversary event, something that I hadn’t heard of before. Looks interesting, so if you are in the area, you might want to check it out.

http://www.mac30th.com

Rev 0 reproduction hardware checks out OK

January 11th, 2014

At first I did have intermittent problems with the 150ns 4116DRAM that I initially tried using. After switching to slower and less expensive 200ns 4116 DRAM everything checked out OK.

Once I get the decals made, which, if I’m lucky, will occur as early as this weekend, I’ll open it up for ordering.

Apple II rev 0 reproduction image

January 7th, 2014

It’s all soldered, just need to finish cleaning soldering flux and populate and test

A2 rev0 prototype

A2 rev0 prototype

Apple II plus listed on eBay

December 31st, 2013

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e12000.m43.l1123/7?euid=4518885c156449d29c317ff2a6592b48&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D161186827995%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AL%3ALCA%3AUS%3A1123

I think that after fixing the keyboard and cleaning it up, this turned out to be a pretty nice example.

SCELBI/8008 Page Update Complete, What’s Next

December 29th, 2013

Finished the update of my SCELBI/8008 pages with a bunch of work on my new 8008/SCELBI applications page.

I’m glad I have completed this SCELBI web site update, as it is something I wanted to do for a long time. Now, if I only had time to write a complete guide to building and operating the SCELBI.

Next up… I have new Apple II rev 0 PCB‘s on hand. The PCBs look good, but I need to build one up to test, before offering the PCBs for sale. I’ve also been cleaning up and repairing a craig’s list Apple II plus purchase. Tomorrow, I hope to have the IIplus done, and perhaps start on the rev 0 soldering.

SCELBAL Page Update

December 27th, 2013

Mark Arnold sent me a paragraph with the story behind SCELBAL. My original explanation was incorrect and has been replaced by Mark’s story. Check out the update.

SCELBI/8008 Web Pages Get Update

December 25th, 2013

I still need to add a few 8008 applications I have working to the applications page.
http://willegal.net/scelbi/the8008andScelbi.html

Save your Christmas money – Rev 0 reproduction PCBs are on order

December 6th, 2013

Since I made dozens of tweaks and I selected a new vendor, I’ll have to build one up and test it before I can sell the rest. I hope to have them ready for sale by the end of the month.

This time I’m selling just bare PCBs, but there is a comprehensive bill of materials, including sources, already online. The majority of the components are readily available as standard items at Unicorn Electronics. Sourcing your own components will save you money and give me time to work on other things. The build manual that I have on my rev 0 web page is still relevant, and also contains a list of components. I point this out in case you want to start investigations into components, sooner, rather than later. If I recall correctly, the hardest parts to find are the Apple II ROMs, a crystal that works right, 2N4258 transistors and the 2513 character generator.

  • The character generator that Unicorn lists for the Apple 1, will work in the Apple II, but it is a more expensive, earlier version than what was used on the Apple II. The Apple II rev 0 had GI R03-2513-CGR-001 parts, which are a little easier to find and a less expensive.
  • The edge connectors can also be a bit hard to find, especially if you are looking for green ones. Key parameters to look for are row spacing .200″, position spacing .100″ and contacts designed for PCB insertion (not solder tail). I’ve used EDAC part number 345-050-524-202 in the past. Onlinecomponents.com lists them, but they take 8 weeks to get – I assume that they make these to order in China.
  • The crystals that work for me are Vishay/Dale part number XT9UNLANA14M31818, which apparently are out of production. I’ve seen a recent Applefritter post where someone had luck with NYMPH 14.31818 MNP143. NYMPH crystals are on some original Apple IIs, so that may be a good alternative, if you can find them. I have some extra inventory of the Dale crystals and 2N4258 transistors and may offer a bundle deal for PCB purchasers.
  • I have a web page on the ROM issue.
  • Unless something goes unexpected wrong, pricing will be $150 a board.

    I sold my last rev 0 kits over three years ago. Back then, they sold very slowly and with only a tiny profit, so it will be interesting to see how long it takes to sell this fresh batch of PCBs.

    Hold off contacting me about ordering, until I post on this blog that they are ready to ship.

    Rev 0 Repro Progress and Retro Workshop Update

    November 30th, 2013

    Apple II rev 0 Progress
    My revision of my original reproduction, the Apple rev 0, is coming along. This morning, I did an extensive design review of the 35th revision, and only found 3 things that needed “fixing”. I’ll probably repeat the effort tomorrow on revision 36. Hopefully that review passes cleanly. If so, I’ll get quotes, pick a vendor and kick off board fabrication next week.

    Projects in the Lab
    Like usual I have a lot of other projects in progress. Some have been in progress for while, others not. Here is a snapshot of my workshop. It keeps getting more crowded as time goes on.

    My Retro Workshop

    My Retro Workshop

    SCELBI TTY CARD UPDATE
    My “LAB” is currently setup for checking out the SCELBI TTY card, which is interfaced to an Apple II serial card, which also supports 110 baud current loop. The hardware is working, but I have to do some software work on the Apple II side of the serial current loop connection in order to make it usable. The standard Apple drivers seem just a bit quirky,as they are tied into Apple II monitor functionality. I was hoping to get by with Apple’s standard PROM drivers, but it looks like I’m going to have write a custom driver for interfacing to the SCELBI. I’m hoping to get the IIe running such that it works just like a real TTY, perhaps eventually including emulating paper tape using floppy discs. I decided to use the IIe instead of a II or IIplus because it supports 80 column output without extra plug in cards.

    SCELBI Galaxy
    I was hoping to make a video of the SCELBI running tiny SCELBAL basic and the SCELBI Galaxy program, which I recently got running. The Galaxy program is SCELBI’s version of the Star Trek game. It was published as documented source code in the SCELBI book “Galaxy”. I had to OCR a scan of the book and then covert it to the AS8 assembler format that I prefer. This took a considerable effort, but I was able to exactly reproduce the original program. When I first went to download it into a physical reproduction 4K SCELBI 8H, I discovered that there wasn’t enough room in memory for a boot loader and the game. I had to spend a lot of time creating a second version the source code to make it fit into 4K with room for a boot loader, without altering the play of the game. This was particularly difficult as the originally published source, didn’t have labels attached to any of the messages, just hard coded addresses pointing into a huge block of characters. In order to move anything in memory, I had to convert the hard coded addresses to labels and add the label to original block of bytes. Oh yeh, there were some page boundary assumptions that I also had to deal with. It wasn’t easy. Once I get the Apple IIe TTY emulation going, I’ll definitely make the video of both the Galaxy game and tiny SCELBAL running on the 8H.

    SCELBI Webpage Update Coming
    I have an update to my 8008/SCELBI web pages coming. Right now, there is too much on my 8008/SCELBI page and I’ll break it down to a few smaller pages. One page that needs a lot of work is the SCELBI/8008 software page. I have managed to get a number of 8008 programs running, some new and others, like Galaxy, old programs that I believe haven’t been run in decades. I need to set up a dedicated software page in order to share them all, plus the cross development tools that I have used to develop them. Most 8008 software from the era will need to have I/O drivers tweaked in order to run in a particular environment, so I will need to publish source and tools. Some of the software, I didn’t develop, so I need to get permission from creators. I would also like to find time to covert my SCELBI blog posts, along with original documention into some kind of book form, as information about building a SCELBI is rather scattered around. I don’t know when or if I will get around to this, but I am motivated, as I think better documentation might help me to sell more SCELBI board sets.

    Apple IIplus

    Apple IIplus

    Apple IIplus


    At top of the first picture you can see the keyboard for an Apple II plus that I recently picked up as part of a Craig’s list transaction. My intention is to clean up and repair this Apple IIplus for resale. I think it will make a good first II plus system for someone, since it has a pretty late serial number along with an RFI board. My experience with those later systems with RFI boards is that they tend to be more reliable than earlier systems. In fact, except for some keyboard issues, this system came in working condition. As you can see by comparing the inside of the top with the rest of the case, the plastic hasn’t yellowed much, if at all, so it should clean up real nicely.

    TRS-80

    TRS-80

    TRS-80


    Along with the IIplus, I picked up a TRS-80 system, with expansion chassis and floppy drive, along with documentation. It doesn’t work, but it should be a fun project to fix up. I can’t decide whether I will keep or flip it. Initially I was going to add it to my collection, but the engineering isn’t what I’m used to, so I’ve already somewhat soured on it. A friend of mine had a TRS-80 briefly, back in the 70’s, but took it back and got an Apple II. Having played with his TRS-80 briefly in the 70s, is what spurred my interest in having one, now. If I keep it, I’ll need to get a Commodore Pet in order to have one of each of the first machines of the “big three” computer manufacturers of the 70’s.

    I keep telling people that I’m not a serious collector, as I like to work on, learn about and operate these old machines. I don’t usually acquire vintage computers, just to own, which is a sign of a serious collector. However, as you can see from this blog post, I seem to continually find ways to increase my “backlog” of projects.